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Nov 25 12 4:47 PM

A couple of manufacturers have produced 1/60th Valkyries, which are as near to 28mm as you'll get.
They are, however, horribly expensive.

-panzer_engel

i know and its a bummer.

No worries. {^_^}

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Nov 28 12 5:28 PM

There's a really, really, really LONG story about the whole Defiance Games thing. Feel free to PM me and I can fill you in, but suffice to say that the two companies will never work together.

As a side note, at this rate, I'm sometimes wondering if Leland will die of old age before Defiance gets their suit in production. In the meantime, Antenociti is working on one as well that looks rather nice and might be available by the end of the year: http://www.antenocitisworkshop.com/news/2012/08/i-spy-with-my-little-eye-something-beginning-with-awesome/

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Nov 28 12 6:25 PM

Defiance to me looks like the robbed the general premise of the Greatcoats  but hey, what do I know.  Some serious blending of both ranges is going to get death if they manage to release their German line soon. No rush for the heavy weapons as I already have a vendor for that :P
-mudgunner

Wargames Factory's Greatcoats and Alien Worlds were ideas from the founder and original owner, who now founded and owns Defiance Games.


Maybe the two companies should get together and merge the Alien Suns and Alien War ranges. Would be cool, and WF could do the manufacturing.

-bryon31

That ain't going to happen, and understandably so.  Too much bad blood between the current owners of WF, and the original owners who now own DG. 


Its all about profit at the end of the day I don`t see any problems in the collaboration. if it speeds up WF output must be a good thing surely? I realise there is a lot more than OK then lets make it, who owns what etc.

 
-moneybox

In this case, there's alot more than just profits and logistics impeading a collaboration of any kind.
 

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Nov 28 12 8:12 PM

Without even thinking about the rise and fall and rebirth of Wargames Factory and origins of Deficance Games because that would give me a heacache: When you make your miniatures in China, you're going to have major supply line problems at some point. Whether you're stuff is trapped in customs or your ship is quarantined for an outbreak of some random disease... or sinks. Strange and unusual things will happen in the process of hauling piles of plastic sprues halfway across the world.

The previous Wargames Factory liked to make grand announcements... "In Design"  "In Tooling" "In Production" "On The Boat"... and they'd encounter some blistering scorn on account of it. Many of us might remember that the Late Republican Romans were to be released many months before they actually arrived, commemorated with the famous "Warlord vs Wargames Factory Roman Comparison Picture" where one of WG's little fellows in segmentata sat beside an empty base. "The Warlord mini is a bit small but the detail is crisp. The Wargames Factory mini... hasn't arrived yet. The Warlord Mini comes with shield transfers. The Wargames Factory mini... isn't here yet." or something to that effect.

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Mar 7 13 12:12 AM

As I was Googlin' around I came across these very nice concept art pieces:


Leland R. Erickson, Evil-Genius-at-Large "Clouseau! Give me ten men like him, and I can destroy the whole world!" -Inspector Charles Dreyfus

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Aug 13 13 8:35 AM


Well, at least I can have something very close to what I have been going on about all this time in 15mm (as long as I add my own jump jets and y-rack bomb thrower):

http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=315555




Alas, they're in 15mm scale and metal, but at least I've moved 15mm closer to the goal...

Leland R. Erickson, Evil-Genius-at-Large "Clouseau! Give me ten men like him, and I can destroy the whole world!" -Inspector Charles Dreyfus

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Aug 14 13 5:48 AM

great models. Khursan is producing a few of its amazing 15mm vehicles in 28mm, perhaps one day he will get around to making these in that scale as well.  I like his 15mm orcs they fit in nicely with the WF orcs in theme.  Thinking of buying some to see if they would work as goblins for my orcs.

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Aug 14 13 8:14 PM

great models. Khursan is producing a few of its amazing 15mm vehicles in 28mm, perhaps one day he will get around to making these in that scale as well.  

-bryon31


The only problem being that we're back to square one, as they will not be hard plastic and priced accordingly...

Leland R. Erickson, Evil-Genius-at-Large "Clouseau! Give me ten men like him, and I can destroy the whole world!" -Inspector Charles Dreyfus

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Oct 11 13 2:02 PM

Tonaituh, I like the helmet styles shown in the 2nd and 6th photos. What are these suits from originally?

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Oct 15 13 10:07 PM

http://englishrussia.com/2013/10/09/future-of-the-war/
Vitaly Bulgarov was born in Moldova but lives in Los Angeles now. He works for Blizzard company in a team that deals with cinematographic projects. But this post is about his personal achivements out of the copmany. His own project is called Black Phoenix. Together with a photographer Maria Skotnikova he decided to create ten different designs within ten days to subsequently visualize them in 3D. No sketches at all and no breaks. Check out what he got as a result.

look at this picture, it seem very usefull isn't it?

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Nov 24 13 6:00 AM

I found this by searching for Heinlein Steel Gorillas.  Here's how the artist describes the concept.

So you may be thinking "What's so special about this? It's just a suit of powered armor." But that's the thing- this isn't just a suit of powered armor. This isthe suit of powered armor. That is to say, the one created by Robert Heinlein, in his sci-fi / military / philosophical masterpiece Starship Troopers.

The most description Heinlein gives of the armor's physical appearance is that it has a bowl helmet, and that when wearing it "...you look like a big steel gorilla." He does, however describe the armor's various functions and armaments in great detail. I've based my interpretation of Heinlein's powered armor on the information given about it in the 1st and 7th chapters of the novel.

Notable features from the book: Bowl-visor helmet, flip-up/down night vision optics ("snoopers"), backpack-mounted mortars/bomb launchers, arm-mounted flame thrower ("hand-flamer"), mini-nuke rocket launcher, and jump-jets throughout.

Oh, and Heinlein created this in 1959. You might notice that as being pretty much four decades before the concept of powered armor started breaking into the mainstream (Warhammer 40k is the most notorious early-adopter, which jumped on the bandwagon back in the 80's). Honestly, his descriptions of the powered armor are more high-tech and plausible than half the stuff in current hard-sci-fi.

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Nov 24 13 2:30 PM

Very nice. After Starship Troopers the most prominent armour suit would have been Iron Man (1963 onwards). Though they have always been a staple of SF gaming - Traveller had Heinleinesque armour (Battledress) and OGRE had jump troops, both from 1977.

The original Starship Troopers boardgame dates from 1976, or course, and used this art:

https://www.msu.edu/user/storto/sstbox.jpg

My very first wargame. I played it even before I'd read the novel, which made for an interesting perspective :)

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Nov 30 13 4:19 PM

mrinkuVery nice. After Starship Troopers the most prominent armour suit would have been Iron Man (1963 onwards). Though they have always been a staple of SF gaming - Traveller had Heinleinesque armour (Battledress) and OGRE had jump troops, both from 1977.

The original Starship Troopers boardgame dates from 1976, or course, and used this art:

https://www.msu.edu/user/storto/sstbox.jpg

My very first wargame. I played it even before I'd read the novel, which made for an interesting perspective :)"



Before the Starship Troopers board game, there was Starguard!, which is the granddaddy of all sci-fi miniature war-games rules for ground combat, having first been published in 1974. Starguard! included powered armor from the get-go, suits based upon Heinlein's description in Starship Troopers. Starguard! figures are still in production, all in 1/72 scale (which was the preferred scale for wargaming back in the 1970s):

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Starguard! is now in it's 6th edition IIRC, and is available from Reviresco, run by the man who brought us the game and all the figures, John McEwan: http://www.tin-soldier.com

I played Starship Troopers the board game waaay back in high school, around the same time I discovered Starguard! (and miniature wargaming in general) entirely by accident when my parents and I stumbled into the last day of a war-game convention while on our way back from a  day trip to Sacramento, CA in 1976.image

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Nov 30 13 4:22 PM

warsmith kaileI found this by searching for Heinlein Steel Gorillas.  Here's how the artist describes the concept.

So you may be thinking "What's so special about this? It's just a suit of powered armor." But that's the thing- this isn't just a suit of powered armor. This isthe suit of powered armor. That is to say, the one created by Robert Heinlein, in his sci-fi / military / philosophical masterpiece Starship Troopers.

The most description Heinlein gives of the armor's physical appearance is that it has a bowl helmet, and that when wearing it "...you look like a big steel gorilla." He does, however describe the armor's various functions and armaments in great detail. I've based my interpretation of Heinlein's powered armor on the information given about it in the 1st and 7th chapters of the novel.

Notable features from the book: Bowl-visor helmet, flip-up/down night vision optics ("snoopers"), backpack-mounted mortars/bomb launchers, arm-mounted flame thrower ("hand-flamer"), mini-nuke rocket launcher, and jump-jets throughout.

Oh, and Heinlein created this in 1959. You might notice that as being pretty much four decades before the concept of powered armor started breaking into the mainstream (Warhammer 40k is the most notorious early-adopter, which jumped on the bandwagon back in the 80's). Honestly, his descriptions of the powered armor are more high-tech and plausible than half the stuff in current hard-sci-fi.

image


Simply brilliant, a fantastic find! Now this would be fantastic in a 28mm hard plastic set IMHO. WF, get on the stick and get the rights to this design!image

Leland R. Erickson, Evil-Genius-at-Large "Clouseau! Give me ten men like him, and I can destroy the whole world!" -Inspector Charles Dreyfus

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Dec 1 13 4:35 PM

I like that last example quite a bit. Excellent drawing and it has the 'Starship Trooper' look that seems so hard to nail in concept.

I don't think there's anything quite like that in 28mm in the market right now?

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Dec 4 13 11:46 PM

 

Not a damn thing even close in hard plastic, Doc. Hence why I've persisted so doggedly with trying o get WF to follow through on this proposal in some solid and conclusive fashion for so long. IMHO it would be a real winner as a product, especially if the kit were as customizable as I originally proposed IMHO. image

The Games Sweatshop space wombles don't even come close to this sort of tech nor weapon load out, just video game cartoonish silliness at a ridiculously high price:


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I wanna see it try and actually *run* across a battlefield...image

 

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