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Oct 1 13 4:13 AM

everyone,

A question:

Do you have school age children/grand children who look for dioramas for historical military periods, or art projects where miniatures could be used for creativity?

Please let me know which, art or historical, or both; and at what age/grade in school. Also has anyone assisted in the above using WF miniatures?

I heard an interesting comment from a store owner recently. A child came into the store and requested a diorama for a historical period using miniatures. I am very curious if anyone else has had this experience.

For example, after the Warhorse movie I know several children asked for horses to do a Warhorse presentation about WW-I. 

Thank you.

Jim 

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Oct 1 13 9:47 AM

If I was a kid building a diorama I'm not sure I'd buy a set with 30 of essentially the same type of figure (for example, the legionnaires box). That's from the perspective of 10-year-old me.

A set that had two or three sprues of Zulus and two or three sprues of British (or Greeks and Persians, etc.), so you have opposing sides, might be a cool idea. That's not the way the majority of wargame figures are typically marketed though (Warlords' Rorke's Drift, or GW's intro boxes being exceptions).

It sounds like you are thinking of new marketing opportunities- you should try finding a company that distributes to historical museum gift shops, or even direct to the museum shop. I've seen models for sale at museums before, no reason why WGF couldn't get in there too.



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Oct 2 13 3:55 AM

everyone,

On average, I believe, most forum members can make numerous historical dioramas just from bits.

My focus is on what historical periods are being requested, if any, and the average age range.

I agree selling a box of WF figures alone will not be very helpful.

In the case of the WF samurai, the complete line is ready to go; so a Japanese history class, as a project, could use a box of each and make an impressive display, imho. That is more the focus of my questions.

Thank you both for your thoughts.

Jim

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Oct 2 13 5:38 AM

My daughter did a diorama but it was Dinosaurs.  She was glad her dad was happy to have all of her dads terrain supplies at her disposal. The dinosaurs were purchased at the dollar store.  I remember making a WW2 diorama as a kid using 1/35 scale Tamiya soldiers. 

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Oct 2 13 6:27 AM

Yes In the Falklands conflict, all of the model shops in London sold out of metal model ships - they were being used to illustrate talks about the conflict on TV.

We have this in the UK with the interest being on the UK school curriculum, so Romans and Vikings are popular.

In the USA its got to be the ACW (and before and after that the wars against the Native Americans, Indians got to love them). Mexican-American war I believe is in the US curriculum.

And I tell you what if WF does the figures I would happily write a nice simple Wild West type set of rules to go with them.

What about the AWI, anyone up for that?

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Oct 2 13 6:40 AM

My daughter used some spare WSS figures for a Battle of the Plains of Abraham diorama.

-jerepp


Just so you know same figures for both sides just painted the British red and French blue with a different mix of heads

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Oct 2 13 8:07 AM

Just so you know same figures for both sides just painted the British red and French blue with a different mix of heads -jerepp

OK, I appreciate that bit of info. Speaking for myself Jerepp, when I saw "Battle of the Plains of Abraham", my first thought was, 'Abraham',  "Old Testament", 'Bible'.
Then did a quick re-read "spare WSS figures".  Oh the joy of getting older and slower on 'the up take'. LOL

"You see old friend, I brought more soldiers than you did." 'King Leonidas - 300'

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Oct 2 13 11:48 PM

In the USA its got to be the ACW (and before and after that the wars against the Native Americans, Indians got to love them). Mexican-American war I believe is in the US curriculum.     

                                                                                                                            -zedeyejoe





While I have seen dioramas of the ACW, U.S. cavalry VS Ameri Indian* wars, WWII, even a few of the Alamo during the Texas Revolution, but I have never seen one of the Mexican-American war. In all my life, I have only seen one miniature depiction of American soldiers from the exact time period when the Mexican-American War took place.  It was very short war that is greatly under represented. I have also never seen any Barbary Corsair wars dioramas even though that was the time the U.S. government formed a permanent navy and marine force and the war its self lasted long time. There are in fact a number of wars, military actions, and military expeditions which the USA was party to that have limited to no representation in miniature, particularly during the 19th and early 20th centuries.    


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Oct 3 13 5:23 AM

OK, I appreciate that bit of info. Speaking for myself Jerepp, when I saw "Battle of the Plains of Abraham", my first thought was, 'Abraham',  "Old Testament", 'Bible'.Then did a quick re-read "spare WSS figures".  Oh the joy of getting older and slower on 'the up take'. LOL

-jack

Its not such an important battle for the rest of the world and frankly the end was not much of a battle at all (one of those proofs of Lao Tzu's maxims about maneuver)  But in Canada it is tied up in how the country got itself put together and has repercussions even today.

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Oct 5 13 10:44 PM

Just to prove there are exceptions to every rule, back in the 5th grade we had to give a book report with a 3D prop or props. Mine was a book on the Kaiserschlacht 1918, and my prop was a diorama of the Western Front complete with three full boxes of Airfix WW1 figures, and an Airfix Mark I Male tank, plus trenches I'd sculpted out of actual soil mounted on a big piece of plywood, and some blasted trees made by the simple expedient of digging up some small roots from the backyard and sticking them into the soil on the diorama... my home room teachers were so impressed with all the work they thought I'd gone to in making the diorama that they took a whole bunch of photos of the silly thing!

Of course, as soon as I got it home I removed all of the figures and the tank, and returned the plywood to the family woodshed and the "Western Front" to the backyard garden where it belonged...

Leland R. Erickson, Evil-Genius-at-Large "Clouseau! Give me ten men like him, and I can destroy the whole world!" -Inspector Charles Dreyfus

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Nov 30 13 7:56 AM

general lee,

There will be no further information until Spring 2014. This is going to be a very major roll out by WGF for this project, so please be patient.

Jim

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Dec 1 13 6:20 PM

jack wrote:

Just so you know same figures for both sides just painted the British red and French blue with a different mix of heads -jerepp

OK, I appreciate that bit of info. Speaking for myself Jerepp, when I saw "Battle of the Plains of Abraham", my first thought was, 'Abraham', "Old Testament", 'Bible'.

Then did a quick re-read "spare WSS figures". Oh the joy of getting older and slower on 'the up take'. LOL

Glad to read it wasn't just me Jack ;)

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Dec 1 13 6:23 PM

Barbary Pirates would be nice....but hey in the meantime I can use Persians with spare muskets :)

It's actually already been done on the forum and yep they look a treat.

Hmmmm 6 nations....wonder what that could be.....

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Dec 1 13 8:32 PM

Potter, it's 6 *boxes* for one conflict, not necessarily 6 nations (though that's possible, I guess). See above for the little information we have and all the speculation.

Most likely guess is two sides, three boxes each (maybe infantry, cavalry and artillery). Or one civil conflict where the fighters were more or less the same covering some combined boxes (i.e. Rising Sun covers multiple sides with four boxes). The only conflicts we can rule out are the ones already started (so this won't be 28mm or 15mm WW2, for example).

Could be Wars of Religion (ECW/30YW) with pike, muskets, curiassers, dragoons, regular cavalry and artillery. Or any of a wide number of Napoleonic combinations - French and British line foot, hussars and artillery for example. Ditto for Crimea, which no-one is doing in plastic.

3 months? Jim, you're killing me! :)

Guess that does give me some time to save up, though.

Last Edited By: mrinku Dec 1 13 8:34 PM. Edited 1 time.

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Dec 2 13 10:15 AM

everyone,

Thank you all for your patience and understanding.

This is not just a box of figures release; it will be a complete package..It is a very major effort for our WGF staff.

Let me briefly quote Daisy here: "As soon as we know that the kits are finished tooling, we will be crowing from the rooftops about their release."

For the last three conventions I have attended, and the responses above I believe many of our historical customers are going to be VERY happy with this release. I know personally, I am looking forward to this release very much!

I promise, when I can give you more information I will do this as soon as I am given the go ahead.

Jim

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Dec 2 13 4:47 PM

Jim, not pushing it but just curious - is this project from within WGF like Dark Futures, or an external client like Dreamforge? I fully understand if you aren't allowed to say.

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