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I'm looking for models that size well with the WF Romans.  Any suggestions would be nice.

I'm interested in some models from Old Glory,  I was looking at their Balista and Crew and wanted to know if anyone out there in the intraverse knows if they are compatable models.

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Aug 1 13 5:58 PM

They will very likely be smaller than WGF's 28mm plastic Romans. Thicker indiividual bases is what I have used for OG minies in the past.

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Aug 2 13 3:51 AM

bryon31,

If we knew what you are trying to make I think we could all be more helpful.

Numidians always work well. 

Remember the Romans LOVED to parade captured chariots like the Celts so they will work also. I would use cavalry Romans in wide leg stance so they do not not get tossed off!

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Aug 2 13 4:03 AM

Bryon45,
I have found in general that the WF figures, after painting, fit in with just about every other manufacturer.  My Celt units are a big mash up of WF, Warlord, Rafm, & Old Glory, and after they are all painted up, they look really coherent.  Unfortunately, I haven't done this with the romans yet b/c I just haven't gotten around to painting them yet, but in general, unless the figures are especially big, like Crusader or Black Tree or something, they all fit together well.  (IMHO). I have included a picture.


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Aug 2 13 6:22 AM

Jim - I'm looking for war machines (Scorpions, Ballistas, Catapults, Onagers) for my Romans. Although I can convert some but I'd prefer to get models with crew that compliment my WF Romans.

bramante - Those Celts look good and your right they work well together. I can't tell that they are from different lines. Thanks for the picture. Great job by the way, I hate painting stripes and you've done it very well.

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Aug 2 13 9:21 PM


They look great-Really like the faces. -potter

Here, Here!  Really great work on the faces *Bramante.
Thats my 'Achilles Heel' of painting if there ever was one. I just pick something like 'tanned skin', then "try" very hard to barely dry brush the hair color to pick up the facial hair. Then if the poor fellow doesnt look like hes got the bad end of a mud fight, I call it a success. LOL 
Bramante, It would be great to see more of your work.

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Aug 3 13 6:06 AM

bryon31,

Wow that request will be a challenge. 

Nothing, in stock, that I saw. Mostly these are being done in wood, and in much larger than 28 MM size.

Sorry I can't be more helpful on this one.

Jim

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Aug 4 13 1:18 AM

@Bryon-Fortunately, there are some war machines available in plastic. Warlord now do their Roman range in plastic I believe (I think they used to be in resin only-kerching!).

Alternatively, there's the old Zvezda kits, which have been marketed for their old 28mm fantasy wargame range (now sadly out of production) and their own 1/72 range simultaneously!

This means they are a little on the small side, but the Scorpions, IMHO, are still perfectly fine as are the field defenses.The Catapult is also suitable however may be a little later in design than is historically accurate for Romans.

The kits can be picked up for a reasonable price if you shop around, and look very nice, if may be a little basic. I've had some in the past and the Scorpions and siege tower are great, It's marketed for 1/72 and 28mm as mentioned earlier, so openings, doors etc look a little small, but height wise, the kit is fine and a dawn sight cheaper than GW etc.

Crew could easily be made using WF Romans and Nubians and would look a treat.

Is there anything you can't combine with the Persian figs?

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Aug 4 13 7:38 AM


there are some war machines available in plastic.  The kits can be picked up for a reasonable price if you shop around, and look very nice, if may be a little basic. ..but height wise, the kit is fine and a dawn sight cheaper than GW etc.-potter

Oh Lord, name someone, "anyone" thats not cheaper than that 'cash carnivor'. LOL

Crew could easily be made using WF Romans and Nubians and would look a treat.

Im guessing you meant "..Romans and Numidians?" Dont feel bad, Ive typed that same thing more than once before catching it. Maybe we're all hopeing that WF will add them to their ancients line at some point.

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Aug 5 13 5:46 AM

       
Alternatively, there's the old Zvezda kits, which have been marketed for their old 28mm fantasy wargame range (now sadly out of production) and their own 1/72 range simultaneously!
This means they are a little on the small side, but the Scorpions, IMHO, are still perfectly fine as are the field defenses.The Catapult is also suitable however may be a little later in design than is historically accurate for Romans.

-potter

I have a few of these kits already.  Using them for my Greek themed mythical/fantasy army. In fact I'm using Numidians as the crew. 

Jim, thanks for the link,  I've tried my had at scratch built seige equipment, and allthough they don't look bad, I always come out on the large side of the spectrum. But I admit it was a lot of fun cutting dowels, matches, toothpicks, and popcicle sticks to create something with them. I suppose I can try again. 

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Aug 5 13 8:00 PM

I've tried my had at scratch built seige equipment, and allthough they don't look bad, I always come out on the large side of the spectrum. But I admit it was a lot of fun cutting dowels, matches, toothpicks, and popcicle sticks to create something with them. I suppose I can try again. 

-bryon31

  Bryon31,  I'd love to see some of your 'homemade' works.  And I know what you mean, building from scratch can be a ton of fun.. even if they dont come out 'perfect', just gettting close is often all you need to look right on the table.

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Aug 6 13 5:19 AM

everyone,

Has anyone played a good set of rules for a miniatures siege game? To me, Jerusalem 70 AD is the best siege board war game. Sadly my copy is 'lost in space', but it was great fun.

I bought mine at Origins II in 1976.

I agree, the counters are a bit garish, but the 4 maps made it great fun as set up was hidden.

Check out the images here:

http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/33521/the-siege-of-jerusalem-70-a-d

I LOVE a great siege game.

Jim

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Oct 28 13 8:07 PM

A good set of siege rules would be fantastic.

A number of companies have produced them, but they never seem to have really taken off. I think too many have a view that siege games could be stale or require tons of scenery, walls, and months to play etc. which is not a total necessity, though a full scale castle under siege in a game lasting 6 weeks could be kinda fun....returning to a board already set up, using the same forces for both sides where each one is whittled down until one opponent seizes a chance, creates a breach or decides they've had enough and rides out could be a very exciting challenge.

One set of rules that springs to mind is GW with their WHFB ruleset did try but they weren't really punchy enough (and it really was a few years ago!). I believe (though could be wrong so forgive my addled brain) Flames of War did do a some work in a Wargames Illustrated article for their Monte Casino pack, and a clever gamer could probably adapt these to 28mm.

I believe Masada would be an interest take historically, but a siege game doesn't have to be ancients or fantasy only.

The Franco Prussian War, WWI, WWII (Monte Casino for example) The British in India (Seringapatam for example), the ACW, the ECW, the Russian Civil War, Vietnam with Dien Bien Phu or Khe San. Even modern day Afghanistan when US forces and PMCs were pinned by overwhelming insurgent forces for a day or so (it was filmed at the time including by one of the snipers operating in the field). Almost every conflict has had it's fair share of sieges. Heck you could even play 'The Siege of Sidney Street' on a skirmish level and see if you could change history by bagging Churchill.

Options are endless, and don't have to be costly, you just need fun, engaging rules and a sporting opponent.

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