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Sep 11 13 4:47 PM

Sorry Jim, I shouldn't have presumed. To be honest, all my purchases (and I've made quite a few this year) have been in support of existing role playing game rules, or vague projects.

I didn't mean to imply you don't care about the rules we use - I was just suggesting that sale of the actual miniatures was more important from a business point of view than any particular rule sets they may be used for, particularly in regard to modern/historical ones where you will design the kits based on actual soldiers and weapons used.

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Sep 12 13 2:25 AM

Wow really looking forward to finding out about whats on the cards for these sets.

@Jack-I agree bud, those old pics have a lot to answer for . A lot of wargamers still think of WW1 as trenches, and er...thats pretty much it. Naturally this is not the case, there was a lot more to it, and a whole lot of theatres of war. WW1 Africa is of particular interest and makes for some very interesting figures. Then there's the Russian Revolution off the back of WW1, another whole new world of figures....

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Sep 13 13 12:03 AM

Wow really looking forward to finding out about whats on the cards for these sets.
@Jack-I agree bud, those old pics have a lot to answer for. A lot of wargamers still think of WW1 as trenches, and er...thats pretty much it. Naturally this is not the case, there was a lot more to it,     Then there's the Russian Revolution off the back of WW1, another whole new world of figures....

-potter


Potter,
AMEN! Or should I say.. "Uh When Jim, when!?"  lol
So true, so true. You know, when I have thought of the Great War in the past, at times wonder, 'would the Russian revolution have actually taken place if not for the hardship and economic pressure it 'helped' to bring about? Or did it just speed up the inevitable? 

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Sep 14 13 3:35 AM

ACW would be a HUGE seller for WGF-There's currently only Perry Miniatures doing this period in plastic (and doing it extremely well I might add), and with the (normally) large forces involved, then it's a great opportunity to sell lots of well sculpted, very fairly priced, plastic figs.

If an ACW range were produced, even in limited sets, for example, Infantry, Artillery, Cavalry, one for each side with only minor sculpting differences/parts between the two forces (same basic sprues as already done by Perry) then they'd be a hit. Even without the more specialist troops (Berdans(?) Sharpshooters, Zoaves etc) then the money would come rolling in. Especially if the figs were 'true 28' along the lines of existing Perry plastic figs.

These would bring about many new collectors to the period as well as existing ones. The figs have to be done right however and I'd avoid 28mm Heroic if possible.

I'm not plugging another manufacturer BTW (though they are great figs and a great company IMHO), but as stated earlier, they are the only company doing this period in plastic at the time of writing.

Were WGF to start then the figs would be well worth waiting for!

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Sep 20 13 7:10 PM

Anything?? :-D -general_lee

OH IF ONLY!
I think its time we stop playing games here, and we go right to the top of the food chain, the top rung of the ladder, the top totem on the pole, the top dog, yes, the main flower in the garden...

D  A  I  S  Y ! ! !


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Sep 21 13 3:05 AM

Yes Daisy , please don't keep us nerds waiting longer!

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Sep 21 13 7:55 AM

I think the nice thing about the teaser and their idea is they are going to hit a single war with 6 boxes of toys that should hopefully give us a nice selection of troops to create our armies. I have to imagine that the war they selected is popular enough to justify such a project and if the quality is on par or better than the male/female survivors or the WSS artillery then I think we will all be incredibly happy. I look forward to hearing more.

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Sep 21 13 2:19 PM

everyone,

Please give Daisy a break here. Daisy is in the middle of the Colorado flood disaster, she and her family are ok- just 'minor flood damage'. Some of her neighbors and friends, not so luck.

There will be NO update anytime soon on the new 6 boxes. When everything is gtg everyone will be given the 'heads up'. For now speculate away, there are MANY good ideas being generated here. Food for future thought for sure!

Jim

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Sep 21 13 6:33 PM


 Daisy is in the middle of the Colorado flood disaster, she and her family are ok- just 'minor flood damage'. Some of her neighbors and friends, not so luck. -jim_goss

  May the Lord watch over them all.
I know the summer has been 'rampant' with wild fires throughout the midwest as well.

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Sep 28 13 8:04 PM

During this debate we have also considered that WW I / the Great War might be the subject of the "New Historical" set..
Well on the topic of WW I, I stumbled across this picture and just had to share it, its one of the coolest game tables Ive seen.


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Sep 30 13 4:55 PM

THAT  is a great looking WWI battlefield. 

I saw a WWI battlefield a couple of years ago at Origins. Part of the scenerio was for players to try to throw cotton balls across the table top(incoming artillery).

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Sep 30 13 5:45 PM

Here is a reality check for all you wargamers and a funny story. :)

I was invited to play in a WWI game that was presented by the author of the Old Glory WWI rules and it was showing off their brand new 25mm range (at the time) and the brand new biscuit foam trench system. The table was outstanding and the miniatures were painted beautifully. Commonwealth forces (Brits, Canadians, and Scots) along with one company of Americans were storming a German strongpoint. During the game the Brits and Americans were dying in droves and they ran steadfastly towards their objectives with a few lumbering tanks in support. The older gentlemen playing the Americans was literally crying and whining everytime his troops were picked on and he begrudgingly removed his miniatures. Finally after about 3-4 turns of listening to him complain the game master and author turned to him and said, "Over 15 million soldiers died during World War I, why should your soldiers be any different?" From that point forward the American player completely understood the point of his role on the battlefield and had a blast playing out the rest of the game.

Its the simple things in life that make us realize that sometimes we should just shut the hell up and play the game. :)

Joe

PS. In keeping with the subject of this thread, I don't think the new range is World War I. There is a lot of misunderstanding about this war and even when Warhammer Historicals released some really nice WWI rulebooks it was just a blip on the radar for a short time. There are wars that are consistently seen at wargaming conventions which in some way is the heartbeat of the industry. Here are some of the most commonly run games at historical conventions:

Ancients - already being done but could use a few gaps filled. Not really considered brand new so I doubt it will be Ancients

English Civil War - not being done but I don't think would yield the sales to justify the production. Warlord Games has a really nice range and there are several British companies producing metal.

French & Indian War / Seven Years War - not being done but a possibility. Could easily do French infantry, British infantry, German infantry, 1-2 artillery boxes, 1-2 cavalry boxes. if you did French and Indian a box of Indians would be cool.

American Revolution - not being done but a possibility. British infantry, American infantry, artillery, maybe some dragoons, or French.

Napoleonics - not being done but a possibility if they pick a particular time period. Napoleon in Egypt for example or Waterloo. Something where you could justify 6 boxes and move on. (French infantry, artillery, dragoons / British infantry, artillery, dragoons)

American Civil War - not being done so a possibility. Easy range and could possibly be covered with 6 boxes (2-3 types of infantry, 1 cavalry, 1 artillery, 1 command box)

World War II - already being done in 28mm and slightly touching 15mm

Those are my thoughts. Thanks,

Joe

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Sep 30 13 11:44 PM


I was invited to play in a WWI game..   The older gentlemen playing the Americans was literally crying and whining everytime his troops were picked on and he begrudgingly removed his miniatures. Joe -kroneenterprises

I can only hope the "crying" was metaphorical and the "whinning" was the only literal part of his complaining, but considering some (near) ballistic behavior I have seen during some games, it would not surprise me Joe.
 

Now as for the list you gave.. (pretty extensive I must say).  When you say "Not / Already being done" I presume your refering only to WGF's current miniature line?
Speaking strictly from a business / sales point of view; While finding ACW and Napoleonic miniatures is as easy as falling off of a log, as we say here in the US, Ive said before, 'IF' either of these two are the new line, I think it would be an all but guaranteed sales for WGF.
Just something about the Nap wars era, that has always been a very popular gaming period.

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Oct 1 13 1:11 AM

Hmm... just thought of one period a bit conspicuous in its absence... what about the hundred years' war? Perry have a nice range of late medieval (i.e.15th C) plastics, and there are a lot for dark ages through the Crusades, but nothing jumps out at me for the mid-14th C, when the Frogs and Poms were going it it hammer and tongs (Crecy, Poitiers, various large scale raids). A nice distinctive armour look, too - between the mail hauberks and the full plate harnesses.

But just a thought. I'd reckon *16th* C Landsneckte a better bet, if I could work out a way of making 6 sets from them :)

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